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's stance weird and crazy. but what's surprising is that two g.o.p. senators lindsey graham and john mccain launched their own drone strike against paul. >> we have done, i think, a disservice to a lot of americans by making them believe that somehow they are in danger from their government. they are not. i don't think what happened yesterday is helpful to the american people. what we saw yesterday is going to give ammunition to those critics who say that the rules of the senate are being abused. i hope that my colleagues on this side of the aisle will take that into consideration. >> to take this debate into the absurd is what i object to. >> laura: now, don't get me wrong. they have the right to disagree with paul and the majority of g.o.p. senators who stood with him. but, given that the filibuster lasted 13 hours, why didn't either of them have the moxxy to debate their colleague face to face on the senate floor? what were they afraid of? presumably they could have done so either before or after their dinner with the president. were they jealous that a junior senator dominated the headl
grahams digits. >> the president asked that i get together a group. >> 11 public senators. >> i was honored. >> you know lindsey graham is ready. >> in the coming days and weerks i'm going to continue reaching out. >> he's absolutely determined to get something done. >> the gop has been tagged the party of no. >> now you have speaker boehner saying -- >> the president got his tax hikes. he got his tax hikes. the president got his tax hikes. >> there is still incentive among a lot of republicans to not cooperate with this president. >> all they really need is a hug and a lunch. >> i wish he had done more of that over the years. >> president obama is not their mom. >> where this goes, i don't know. >> there is a caucus of common sense in the coming days and coming weeks. i'm going to keep on reaching out. >> i've been relatively fair to barack obama. >> he doesn't do anything. >> it's jack what you're saying. >> he's not trying to solve the fiscal cliff. now i'm really angry. >>> president obama has just finished a working dinner with 12 republican senators, the start of an outrea
here in the studio together. republican senator john mccain and republican senator lindsey graham. both in want studios. senator graham-- >> next qwester we're including you. ( laughter ) >> schieffer: i want to start off, senator graham, with something-- parent of that speech you said on the senate floor because it seemed to really kind of sum up the week that washington just went through. >> to me, this is pathetic leadership by the commander in chief. this is an abandonment of the republican party's belief in peace through strength. this is the low point in highway time independent united states congress. >> schieffer: and bill kristol, the editor of the "weekly standard" kind of the voice of establishment republicans he said the republicans have now-- his words, not mine-- "joined the president on the road to irresponsibility." he says, "history will judge both your republican party and the president harshly saying they were weighed in the balance and found wanting." so where do you go from here, senator mccain? >> first of all bill kristol is right. and want fact is, we have
republicans including senator john mccain and lindsey graham are slamming his public protest. and members of their own party who joined him. >> the country needs more senators who care about liberty. but if mr. paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids in their college remember dos. dorms. he needs to know what he's talking about. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. you know. i don't even remember the harshest critics of president bush on the democratic side. they had a drone program back then. so what is it, all of a sudden, that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up? to my party, i'm a bit disappointed that you no longer apparently think we're at war. >> kids in their college dorms. in an interview, paul hit back at some of those republican critics. >> i think they're on the wrong side of history on this one. they are of the belief that the war is everywhere. so they kind of
about. >> senators john mccain and lindsey graham's scathing response to paul's nearly 13-hour -- >> i thought it was rather insulting for the way that these gentlemen responded to this. >> your words, senator, john mccain and senator lindsey graham fighting vehemently to defend president obama's policy. it was a little disorienting. >> joining me right now is senator bernie sanders of vermont, a member of the senate budget committee. sir, good to have you here. we start with what politico is putting out as the headline. grand bargain back with a question mark. we look at what paul ryan said after lunch with the president, where i think hope is being borne from. everyone needs to be part of this conversation. we need an open debate about how best to balance the budget and expand opportunities. so, sir, outside of the lines of the continuing resolution coming out of the house side. what you month would you guesstimate that we mae get the grand bargain? >> the issue is not the grand bargain. the issue is what's in the grand bargain. when you have growing inequality, 100% of all new incom
this fixed. get everybody in the room and you fix it. >> okay! >> is it just that easy? >> lindsey graham says that the president has called him -- >> the president had conversations with republicans and democrats. >> -- and wants to do a big budget deal. >> a new hope for a bigger bargain. >> there's a caucus of common sense out there. >> you are lying here! >> don't just sit is there and call me a liar. >> no! >> there is a caucus of common sense here. >> why are you yelling? >> okay! >> i'm not saying yes. i'm just not saying no. >> i think i know how to recycle those old bush 2000 yard signs. >> bush may actually be running. >> he is very serious about the idea of running for president. >> we can't continue to make illegal immigration an easier path than legal immigration. >> he's backing down on moderation. >> a path to citizenship, which i would support. >> and trying to prove his conservative bona fides. >> i don't see how you do it. we wrote this book last year. i have supported bo both. >> left to right, left to right, he's starting to look like mitt romney. it's not a good place
republicans, including senators john mccain and lindsey graham are slamming rand's public protest and members of their own party have joined in. >> the country needs more senators who care about liberty. but if mr. paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids in their college dorms. he needs to know what he's talking about. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. yeah, i don't even remember the harshest critics of the -- of president bush on the democratic side. they had a drone program back then. so what is it? all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up? to my party, i'm a bit disappointed that you no longer apparently think we're at war. >> "new york times" photographer caught this image yesterday of what must have been an interesting elevator ride for senators mccain and paul. >>> john brennan who's nomination to lead the cia was temporarily blocked by rand's filibuste
note the absence of senior defense-minded senators like john mccain and lindsey graham, in the pitter patter of applause. and today we got an earful of why. >> but somehow to allege that the united states of america, our government, would drop a drone hell fire missile on jane fonda, that is -- that brings the conversation from a serious discussion about u.s. policy to the realm of the ridiculous. >> and when john mccain wasn't placing him in the realm of the ridiculous, lindsey graham offered his fellow republicans a tour of the hinterlands of hypocrisy. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. so what is it? all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up. what are we up to here? >> a very interesting question, senator graham. very interesting indeed. let's get right to our panel now. here with me in new york is msnbc contributor ari melber, a correspondent for "the nation." and in washington msnbc political analyst david corn of "mother jones" ma
. and so kent mentioned earlier the case out of florida in the sue presume court graham in which the court said the juvenile should be treated differently with respect to life without the possibility of parole. the same happened in simmons where the court has treated juveniles differently. it may be the case we can start to do that. we can start to categorize people. we categorized a group of individuals in virginia and said those people who have mental retardation have lesser couple ability for a whole host of reasons, they're more likely to follow people. they're more likely to be subject to peer pressure, less likely to have made premeditated decision-making. that's probably where this evidence is the most useful. we have a standard in criminal law called the reasonable person standard. this fictitious person that we measure everybody's conduct by. we say this is the person, the average person, the average juror, the average individual, the kind of conduct that we would expect an average member of society to live up to. well, as it turns out that none of us are quite average, right. and
, and then some of these senators, people like john mccain, kelly ayotte, lindsey graham, are people that are bothered by the defense cuts and sequester and might be willing to make concessions. what you hear from republicans in the house is, well, all the president has put on the table is tax increases, and that's not true, but half is tax increases, and republicans are never really going to like that. this is the group that you might convince to cut a deal with. >> although lindsey graham said, hey, we will put revenue on the table if the president is serious about entitlement reform, and that was not long ago. we just showed some tape, richard, of paul ryan entering the white house. i think that's -- i mean, look, we talked a lot yesterday about whether this is a good thing or a bad thing, whether it will amount to much. i think at the end of the day it's a win-win situation for both sides. republicans look less obstructionist. the white house looks like they are finally heeding the advice that the president needs to engage more, and the country sees the two sides talking, if not
the right security for this. let's listen to senator graham. >> this is being sneaky. it is being too cleavver by hal. if they think that we are going to sit on the sidelines and sit that you are not going to take them to guantanamo bay? >> he sees this as evading guantanamo bay. >> the evidence has been collected in a way that they cannot be presented in a villain court. this man went on television multiple times and openly proclaimed his desire to kill americans. so as far as that goes i don't think you need a secret agent to testify to that. he is so dangerous that he cannot be held safely here in new york. this fi guy is not the birdman alcatraz. he is an old fat guy. he had to flee to iran. when they picked him up he was staying at a luxury hotel. he is not going to pose a violent threat to others. he was a danger to this country and he deserves his day in court but this is no reason to put someone like this in gitmo. >> evan thank you for joining me with the latest on that. >>> good evening, and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. rand paul, the senator from kentucky, okay,
it looks like. lindsey graham commented on putting the group together. let's listen to lindsey graham. >> how do you say no to the president of the united states who would like to have dinner with some of your colleagues? you don't. when the president asked that i get together a group, i willingly and i was honored to try to do that. where this goes, i don't know. >> see how to explain the whole thing. almost apologizing for meeting with the president. the president will meet separately with the democratic and republican caucuses in both the house and the senate. joining me right now nia-malika henderson who covers all this. and former mayor willie brown. thank you for joining us. i want to talk about the appearance of this and the reality of this, which is more important? >> it is the appearance of it. for all reasons fall beyond anything we can ever fathom, this is the kind of thing that should have been done from the first day that the president was elected. he should have been able to develop a relationship with every person holding office one on one by first name. many times you
disagree with that. >>> we're listening to senator mccain and graham on that. kind of picking up with the filibuster that wrapped up. this is all in reference to the president's drone program, but john mccain and lindsey graham coming out in support of what the president has done, lindsey graham calling into question where were republicans during president bush's administration when they were using drones. joining me on set is ayman mull ha dean, you know firsthand from the work you've doane overseas, so we have the house judiciary committee, scheduled toic take up this conversation as well, certainly transparency is something that we want, but when we hear senator mccain mentioning the u.s. citizen that was killed in 2011, there was an op-ed piece in "wall street journal" "wall street journal" talking about what it means to be an enemy combatant. he was considered to be an enemy combatant, but in yemen. can a drone be used here if an enemy combatant is on american soil here. how will the conversation go? >> i think these are fundamental questions that have not been debated in th
. >> and lindsey graham calls out his own party. >> i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. >> tonight, james carville on the republican chaos on the senate floor. and i'll also tell you about an actual filibuster that matters. and why leader harry reid is to blame. >>> paul ryan visits the white house. and the president is getting ready to serve up the big three. senator bernie sanders joins me to tell the president to hold the line on earned benefits. >>> and netflix strikes gold with the political drama "house of cards." >> your life, peter, and what i know about it, you should assume there's no such thing aas a secret. >> tonight actor michael kelly is here with all the latest on his hit series. >> good to have you with us, folks. thanks for watching. last night on this program we showed you this chart from the southern poverty law center. the number of extreme militia groups in america is at an all-time high. record high. now, today everyone is lathered up and talking about how senator rand paul is so fantastic
graham, mounted a strong defense of aggressive counterterrorism actions, paul's 12 hour and 52 minute extravaganza scored a significant victory with the party's right flank and beyond. buzz feed reports "although wednesday's filibuster originally enjoyed only the support of conservatives, once it became clear that the conservative world was watching, and rooting for rand paul, a series of establishment figures rushed to his aid, including minority leader mitch mcconnell, and republican conference chair john thune. the old school, new school, old school split was evident on the twitter-verse. stand with rand began trending globally, and am they e-mail approximated supporters, defend your constitution, _#stand with rand. meanwhile, lindsey graham, intra-party scold got a _#of his own. primary graham. if there was any question about just how tense it might be in the upper chamber, the "new york times" ran this photo showing paul and mccain sharing an elevator ride after the elder senator accused the kentucky sion of disservice. hash tag, awkward. stephanie, we have talked ad nauz yum at
the party out and into the promised land and lindsey graham and john mccain. they're just the guys to do it. so old versus young. a little bit more moderate versus less moderate. the chris: who is more moderate? >> mccain and graham are more moderate. of the two, mccain is more moderate than lindsay. chris: the cuban american guy, if you will, from his background is tougher on immigrants. >> cubans get in for free. chris: when we come back, the big question of the week, has president obama put himself at political risk if the big cuts do not chris: welcome back, this week's big question, has president obama played the sequester politics shortly, dan rather? >> yes, he runs the risk of coming out on the short end. you can't say the sky is falling, the sky is falling, and the sky is falling and if the sky doesn't fall, you're at a disadvantage. >> katty. >> the polls, people are just not engaged and interested in the story and worried about the fiscal cliff. a number of people who know what the sequester is who have heard of it are very small. the president is saying the sky is falling and th
"super tramp" aka devon graham, the world's mosten sane rope swing ever. we loved the video. the video has millions of views, like many of devon's videos. but what has a lot of people talking is something from the behind-the-scenes video. >> file this one under a lover's spat for the ages. >> the moment when a girl up there on the cliff, she's part of devon's gang. she is having second thoughts about going on the rope swing, because it is pretty high up. >> mm-hmm. >> her boyfriend is there, devon is there, trying to talk her into it. you'll be safe. you'll be fine. they give her a million countdowns. >> five -- >> two, one -- come on! >> i can't. >> one, zero! [ bleep ] >> i can't do it. >> the boyfriend ends up pushing the girlfriend off a cliff. >> we were all mad at him for having done it. >> i broke up with him over thi this. >> you ladies agreed, but we need to know did they break up? what happened. we have devon graham joining us "right this minute" from hawaii, of course. >> aloha. >> first off, another awesome video from you. no surprise. but did these two really break up? >>
and lindsay graham, the president's them in cease. and then the next day the president had lunch with paul ryan. what is happening? what is going on in washington that's shifting this from what we've seen before which is basically people yelling at each other from opposite sides of pennsylvania avenue? >> even though president obama obviously won the election, the republicans have dug in so hard especially on this income tax issue that we were talking about earlier. and i think to some degree the democrats were taken by surprise. for example when you had that fiscal cliff fight that was right at the owned the year, in fact, it went into january 1, president obama was in a position to take a larger revenue increase if he really wanted to. he chose not to. he dialed it down a little bit thinking there would be more down the line. i think he's taking a somewhat different approach, well, let's try to reach out more, to have more conversation with members. he has tried this before. i mean, it's not the first time. gwen: which is why people thought he wasn't going to try it again. >> it's a good
is a stretch of imagination which is, frankly, ridiculous. >> brown: and south carolina senator lindsey graham accused his colleagues of using a double standard. >> i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. you know, i don't even remember the harshest critics of president bush on the democratic side. they had a drone program back then. >> brown: at the white house, spokesman jay carney underscored the constitutional limitations on the president's power. >> the president swore an oath to uphold the constitution, and he is bound by the law. whether the lethal force in question is a drone strike or a gunshot, the law and the constitution apply in the same way. >> brown: and this afternoon, attorney general holder sent paul a new letter. in it, he said: senator paul declared himself satisfied with that answer. >> so, i am very pleased to have gotten this response back from the attorney general of the united states, and i think that americans should see this battle that we've had in the last 24 hours as something that's good
we not tell him he has the right to remain silent? >> along with senators mccain and graham cop demmed the decision saying, quote, the decision to try ghaith in a u.s. court contravenes the will of the american people and will not go unchallenged. the white house pointed the times square bomber and the underwear bomber, now both serving life sentences. >> at the department of defense, the department of justice, the department of homeland security, intelligence community, agrees the best way to protect our national security interests is to prosecute ghaith in an article 3 court. >> one scholar doubts this crimes meet the military requirement for a military tribunal. >> for the lindsey grahams of the world who say gitmo all the time. that's fine. but those who say military commissions, military commissions, sorry, but he can't be charged with material support for terrorism, which can carry a life sentence, because that is disallowed at a legal matter in military commission. but keep in mind the administration backed down from trying kalib shake mohammad in manhattan after police s
ayotte, senator lindsey graham and john mccain as well as nine other republicans. president obama asked graham of south carolina to organize the dinner, which is occurring at the jefferson hotel blocks from here. graham told us he chose republicans open to negotiating a so-called grand bargain with the president that would include tax reform and cuts to medicare and social security. now, senior advisors tell us scott, that the president knows he's in a political vice. he needs republican help to alleviate the across-the-board spending cuts known as sequestration but he can't get that help unless he negotiates a bigger deficit-cutting deal. tonight's dinner, scott, may be a step in that direction. >> pelley: may be a thaw on a cold night. thank you. nancy cordes is on capitol hill for us. what do the senate republicans think of the invitation, nancy? >> reporter: scott, they were tkpwreurbs today saying they were honored to be invited but they pointed out in previous presidencies this would not be big news because it would be a more common occurrence. in fact, senator susan colins of mai
likely to cut a deal. among those, lindsey graham of south carolina. >> i'm very encouraged by what i see from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i've seen since the early years of his presidencpresidency. >> graham has said he would consider increased revenue if it was coupled with changes to entitlement programs. republican leaders say they're not at all interested in discussing more taxes with the president. the tax issue derailed talks over how to derail the sequester, now administration officials say those budget cuts forced them to cancel all public tours of the white house. now more proof that d.c. can argue about anything, the "wall street journal" editorial reads in part this fits president obama's political strategy to punish eighth graders visiting from illinois instead of, say, employees of the agriculture department who will be sampling wine and sampling tasty dishes prepared by special guest chefs. critics also criticiz
minutes they're expected to vote on the brennan nomination but senators john mccain and lindsay graham are vowing to, quote, stop the nomination in the full senate unless they receive more information from the white house on the attacks in mbenbenghazi. >> john and i are hell bent on making sure the american people understand this debacle called benghazi. >> i have had questions, written questions for mr. brennan for nearly three weeks now. we have not received a single answer. i think we deserve an answer and i have some questions about torture. >> i'm not going to vote on a new cia director until i find out what the cia did in benghazi. >> joining me now, democratic strategist chris kofonis and carrie brown. part of the laundry list that they say have been unanswered is they want to know why on the anniversary of the worst terrorist attack in american history, that is quote from their letter, after multiple attacks on the u.s. and western interests in libya and rising insecurity in countries across the middle east, u.s. military units and assets in the region were not ready to respon
, kelly ai yacht, lindsey graham. stoo several republicans in recent days. senator graham on tuesday described his phone call as and i'm quoting, the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i've seen since the early years of hissed. si. get that man an extra glass of his favorite reislin. a continuing resolution that led to democratic outrage on the floor. >> this is a disgraceful bill. and this process is not on the level. we have a budget that is doubling down on grinding down on the middle class. >> wall street is celebrating while the backs of poor people are been broken. this is not a rule that should pass today. we should remain snowed out. we shouldn't even be here. snow us out until we can get the right kind of balance. >> despite that clear opposition, it did pass keeping in place the sequester cuts while softening the blow for defense naturally. expected to take it up next week saying they'll oppose the measure without a vote to defund the affordable care act. i guess bitterness is always a dish best served cold. while we're on the subject of last year's leftovers, here
. lindsey graham offered some background yesterday afternoon. >> the president called senator mccain and myself a couple of weeks ago, and senator mccain was his opponent, as you all thou know, in 2008. i see the president reaching out. the dinner that was supposed to be quiet is sad that it makes news. >> he's right about that. graham's closest friends were on the list. graham also included republican senators who have a particular interest in the budget debate, so that included pat toomey. graham is the only senator up for re-election in 2014. miguel rodriguez was there. vice president biden, not at the dinner. maybe this is the start of a new outreach. in his first term, mr. obama's outreach to republicans was sporadic at best and though the president bristles when that's pointed out -- >> i promise you, we invite folks from congress over here all the time. and when they choose to come, i enjoy their company. sometimes they don't choose to come, and that has to do with the fact that i think they don't consider the optics useful for them politically. >> the fact of the matter i
cain and lindsey graham, actually going after him, for his tactics in the substance of what he was doing. let's take a listen to that. >> to say that we would hit them in a cafe with a hell fire missile, first of all, no drones have hell fire missiles anywhere near. they're in yemen and afghanistan. and other places in the world. so, we've done a, i think, a disservice to a lot of americans by making them to believe that somehow they're in danger from their government. they're not. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. so what is it? all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up. what are we up to here? >> and i think mccain actually makes a good point there. rand paul by raising the spector of americans sitting in cafes being struck down by u.s. drones, it most people are not concerned about that. it seems crazy. it seems fringe. and in that way, while rand paul did spark this debate and obviously if you were on twitter last night you know people were
, senators mccain and graham both gave shall i say a thumb down to rand paul's 13-hour filibuster on drones. >> mr. paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts this fire up impressionable kids in their college dorms. he needs to know what he's talking about. to somehow allege or infer that the president of the united states is going to kill somebody like jane fonda or someone who disagrees with the policies is a stretch of imagination which is, frankly, ridiculous. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. you know? i don't even remember the harshest critics of the -- of president bush on the democratic side. they had a drone program back then. >> and as the latest drama unfolds now from one end of pennsylvania avenue to the other, i'm joined live by correspondent kristen welker and nbc news senior political editor mark murray. we are awaiting the president to sign the expanded violence against women act and joined by joe biden. it was supposed to st
to the -- to the form of justice as the terrorist in world war ii was? mr. graham: it's been a long-held concept in american jurisprudence that when an american citizen sides with the enemies of our nation, they can be held, captured and treated as an enemy combatant. they have committed an act of war against our country, not a common crime. so in world war ii, you had german saboteurs land in long island. they had been planning and training in germany to blow up a lot of infrastructure, and some of it i think was in chicago. so they had this fairly elaborate bran to attack us. they -- elaborate plan to attack us. they landed in long island. the plan was to have american citizens sympathetic to the nazi cause -- german origin, most of them -- to meet them and provide them shelter and comfort. well, the f.b.i. back then broke that plot up, and they were arrested. the american citizens were tried by military commission, and they were found guilty, and a couple of them were executed. now there's been a case in the war on terror where an american citizen was captured in afghanistan. our supreme cour
on capitol hill waiting for the start of a news conference with republican lindsey graham of south carolina and democratic senator mark big itch of alaska. legislation aimed at reducing gun violence. their bill will look at mental illness and access to firearms. it's scheduled to get under way in about five minutes. up until then a new report from "variety" magazine on violence and entertainment. . host: on wednesday at this time we turn our spotlight to mags. today we look at variety magazine. they have a special report on violence and entertainment. here to talk about it with us from los angeles is variety magazine's chief national editor, tim gray. thank you so much for being here so early this morning. guest: i'm very happy. thank you. host: at the time this special report came out you were editor in chief so you started this special order -- special report with a message. why did "variety" jump in. and tell us what that is for those not connected with the hollywood scene. what is "variety"? guest: it's a trade paper for the entertainment industry. it was started in 1905 covering mostly
that. now, you see today that republicans like lindsey graham and john mccain are making rand paul pay the price for what happened. >> megyn: they are not happy at all. they think his behavior was offensive and insulting and raising an issue they don't think is a real one and demeans the presidency by suggesting that he would at random kill americans sitting in a cafe. >> and i might submit that that's the reason rand paul was where he was last night and why senator graham was where he was last night dining with the president. you don't get access, don't get influence, don't get to be part of the discussion behind closed doors in washington d.c. making a stink, being the skunk at the garden party, like rand paul did. however, rand paul can count this on his side. the american people didn't like washington and didn't like cut out of the process that this new brand of populous libertarian style of populace in the republican party may have currency and may make him a contending for 2016. >> megyn: you look out the window behind you and literally we're expecting to see the pigs fly. what h
. >> when you talk about the practical side, krystal, let me show you, james, senator lindsey graham. what he said today about president obama and how the president is still reaching out and we know all of the things graham has said. listen to this. >> he just called me. >> he did? >> yeah. i'm very encouraged about what i see from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. maybe because of sequestration and frustration with the public, the time is right to act. he wants to do the big deal. >> so the president wants to do the big deal. he's doing the right thing according to lindsey graham. i mean, does this mean that there's a possibility that the president can work out a big bargain here or something? some kind of adjustment of compromise, james? >> well, listen. the president is always -- and he's shown himself to be willing and able to compromise. in fact, those of us on the left have been disturbed by some of the compromises that he has made. so he's always moving towards consensus. i think he's always demonstrated he's will
to a group of republicans. lindsey graham, rob portman, bob corker, tom coburn and susan collins. >> i expect the president to talk to various members. frankly i wish he had done more of that over the years. we've had all of us very limited interaction with the president. he certainly doesn't have to go through me to call my members. >>> so on the international front, seven days of mourning have begun for the polarizing leader of venezuela. live pictures as people are coming on ultimate en masse. the body being moved from a military hospital where he died taking through the streets and mass crowds. people started filling the roads last night as of news came he lost his two-year battle with cancer. as required by the constitution, an election is set for 30 days from now. the white house issuing this statement, saying at this challenging time, the united states reaffirms its support for the venezuelan people and its interest in develop -- that relationship, as we all know, between chavez and the president, that was a rocky one, straight up to the end. there was no u.s. am intoes do recall there
-authored this legislation. >> thank you, senator graham, for working with me on this. i was pleased to help negotiate the part of the bill to strengthen the background check system. clearly, the system as defined in detail here has many holes in it. dangerous people can fall through the cracks because the background check system lacks a clear definition of mentally incompetent. by creating a clear definition, this bill will help prevent individuals with dangerous health -- with the health issues from buying a gun. this is an important step forward. the bill will strengthen the rights of people with mental health illnesses. it provides a specific the physician of mentally incompetent. that only includes individuals involuntarily committed to treatment. it changes outdated and office of terms such as mentally defective. -- outdated and 0 cents if -- offensive such as mentally defective. this bill is in step in the right direction. i like to thank the nra and the national alliance of mental illnesses for their help in this effort. we worked closely with both moves to make sure we had a bill that made se
the filibuster, including lindsey graham. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. i don't even remember the harshest critics of president bush on the democratic side. they had a drama over him back then. what is it all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up? what are we up to here? people are astonished that president obama senator mccain are doing the same things president bush did. i'm not os stan issued. i congratulate him for having the good judgment to understand that we're at war. cenk: here's a republican who is supposed to be a lawyer, by the way, and served at one in the armed forces, saying whether bush or obama you just have to trust the executive that he's got the right guy and if we're at war, he can execute anyone he likes. is that disappointing whether coming from a democratic or a republican? >> oh, yeah. you should never put faith in a politician to be jury, judge or executioner. even though obama is charismatic, i'm not a fan of his, but
about the treatment of enemy combatants. listen to senator lindsey graham. >> we're putting the administration on notice. we think that sneaking this guy into the country clearly going around the intent of congress when it comes to enemy combatants will be challenged. if this man, the spokesman for 9/11, is not an enemy combatant, who would be? >> joining me, fran townsend, former national security adviser to george w. bush, paul shank, also robert bair, jim richards who recovered his own son's body after 9/11, and attorney allen dursh wits. let me start with you, fran, to tee up what's really happened here because this character was first arrested in turkey. i'm not quite sure what he was doing there. then after 33 days he was released because turkish lot said he had to be. then he was flown to jordan. >> let's talk about what we didn't know. he had been in relative safety in house arrest in iran for a decade. why would he have left iran not knowing if he would have been taken into captivity? we don't know why he went to turkey. it seems pretty clear that the turks didn't w
is the problem here? i don't understand graham and mccain. why are they creating a divide in the party? why are they not supporting senator paul's filibuster attempt here? i don't understand why they can't get behind this. it is not a bad -- it is not about -- i'm sorry. i just lost my train of thought. i think what they did is disappointing for the gop. >> i think they both can be right to an extent. i think rand paul did the right thing, but i think mccain has a point. you should be more worried about al-qaeda than your government. but it might change. that is -- rand paul has a good point. during the filibuster i was shocked when -- that rand paul said he could live with that. do you think it was unfair he singled you out? >> i would filibuster that. there is a point to be made about how, the filibuster was a grand symbolic gesture versus camera time. and john mccain did not make that point. the only thing missing is the word meddling. he is a scooby doo villain and he was exposed. it was kind of embarrassing. >> scooby doo villains are young people. >> i find them to be cranky and they
limbaughs, but also the backlash he got from john mccain and lindsey graham, who said this isn't the type of position on national security our party should be taking. >> on the democratic side, we saw joe biden's schedule. seems to touch on all the groups you would need to touch on to come through a democratic primary. but this far out, we're in march of 2013, it seems to me that it's hillary, and that decision, and that's it. from the aides i've talked to, if she wants it, it's hers. no one can challenge her at this point. there's no barack obama coming around. >> that's why we'll probably not get an answer from her for a couple of years, which is why all the activity that we're seeing is happening on the republican side. not only was rand paul making waves, jeb bush. we saw marco rubio taking center stage giving his state of the union response to president obama. all these republicans seem to be doing little different things to at least dip their toes in the 2016 waters to prepare themself for something still three years away. >> the pressure on hillary is unbelievable. lastly, carl lev
the cuts and the white house doesn't want to do that because republicans have said, i think lindsay graham said if the white house makes these cuts and are allowed to stay where the cuts go, they'll attack him for it. so i think there's a lot of politics going on right here and it doesn't look like it's going to go anywhere anytime soon. >> each side accusing the other of hyping the impact of the sequester. but obviously, as of today, there have been no nightmares, screening lines at airports, stock market isn't tanking. is it kind of a wait and see that nothing is going to get done unless they feel they're forced to by their tonights? >> this is one of those areas where the longer the cuts stay in place, the longer and more severe we're going to see the cuts here. so i think this is one of those where it's a wait and see. the president is hoping that these cuts will become more evident and folks will start to feel the pain and congressmen may start hearing from constituents in their districts that are saying, you know, we can't deal with these cuts. >> after this prolonged sequester cuts,
republicans to dinner tonight, and he spoke with lindsey graham yesterday. here's what graham had to say. >> i'm very encouraged by what i see from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i have seen since the early years of his presidency. >> you know, critics have said what took so long for him to meet with lawmakers to try to hammer out a deal? is that fair? >> i do think it's fair. i have a big question, if we knew the sequester was coming for lo this many months, and if we thought there was some kind of a group of sensible caucuses the president has called t. the common-sense caucus, that he could meet with, why did we twiddle our thumbs under the sequester hit? i do think -- but i do think two things. first of all, it is encouraging that the president is doing this. i also thing what's particularly encouraging is there are some cracks in the antitask absolutely no additional taxes beyond what we agreed to in january, republican position.
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